tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post1368640352075582224..comments2009-06-11T10:00:34.754-04:00Daniellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13225866983928718747noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post-52115577647642521692009-06-02T23:40:33.861-04:002009-06-02T23:40:33.861-04:00I&#39;m not sure...but I think I say throughout my post that I don&#39;t disagree fully and I take issue and note that it might just be me that feels that way.<br /><br />What it comes down to is that both of these books paint a dangerous view of God, and for me, that doesn&#39;t work. <br /><br />And, of the three things they say every woman wants, I don&#39;t take issue with &quot;romance,&quot; I take issue with the being a part of an adventure part.Daniellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13225866983928718747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post-56002273889628761132009-06-02T09:00:14.020-04:002009-06-02T09:00:14.020-04:00I am not a huge fan of these books but they seem to have a great impact on many men who don't feel connected to other areas of the church. I don't really know if people can truly judge them without going through the course or reading the book. I can say that it is not for me...I have been through the course, it is not all about hunting and being in the wild. That is a cynical generalization. The main points boil down to the hidden needs, hurts and desires of a man's heart. I know many men who deal with these issues along with feeling inadequate as a man and having a past that is hard for them to deal with. Their marriage, job, etc are affected by it.<br />You say this yourself, "Even though we're all created by God, we're all different. There isn't one set of steps that will work for all of us." But yet contradict that statement with your whole post.<br /><br />I have been realizing lately that some Christians including myself are too cynical towards ministries in the church that don't make sense to us but make a difference to other people. I know people who have been hoping their father or hurting husband will connect with God. Something like this may help. And I don't think that there is a woman out there who does not want to be romanced. If they say they don't they are insecure, lying to themselves, or have a husband who sucks at it and doesn't want others to know.<br /><br />I almost feel like sometimes I tend to look at some of these studies or ministries like the ones that serve me are better, but they really aren't. Lately, I have been trying to catch myself not judging ministries, studies, etc. I spent so many years dealing with people who did that to my music style....and I hated that.aaronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18224251417771879534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post-17085095655749697952009-05-26T19:49:17.574-04:002009-05-26T19:49:17.574-04:00Well, my dad is in the class at church, and whether it's the class, being around other men, or him being at Grace, I like the changes I have witnessed in him.-KellyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post-84823046407366922922009-05-26T13:22:49.247-04:002009-05-26T13:22:49.247-04:00Hey...! You WON! <br /><br />Tribes Contest... please email me your mailing address so I can get you those 10 books...!<br /><br />john@churchcrunch.comJohn (Human3rror)http://human3rror.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post-75708856559552011192009-05-22T19:56:10.054-04:002009-05-22T19:56:10.054-04:00Eldridge's rah rah manhood doesn't even come close to capturing the true description of Biblical masculinity.<br /><br />Real men follow Christ with their whole heart. Real men pursue righteousness. Real men lead with passion, purity, holiness, and love. Real men love the Lord their God with all their heart, soul, mind, and strength and love their neighbor as themself.<br /><br />Real men DO NOT have to live in the wild. Real men DO NOT use teach that fighting is good. Real men DO NOT misuse Scripture to fit their own agenda (Eldredge anyone?)<br /><br />Stand up for true Biblical masculinity!Davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09423098626494318015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post-90730750105958443572009-05-22T14:50:11.382-04:002009-05-22T14:50:11.382-04:00Agreed! It kills me that so many people view God this way.Kellyhttp://krsmith23.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post-62737399513189873042009-05-22T12:57:19.761-04:002009-05-22T12:57:19.761-04:00It's not just you. Those books gag me. Sorry to be blunt, but it's Friday and my filters are off :)<br /><br />What I really want (and have in my almost-22-year marriage) is to be respected by my husband, for him to value my opinions and judgment. For him to recognize me as an intelligent person — his <I>equal</I> (gasp!) who happens not to pee standing up.Beth G. Sandershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02199398935442635103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4575798585122270924.post-46466936612281736372009-05-22T12:55:23.965-04:002009-05-22T12:55:23.965-04:00I would write a particularly interesting comment.. but I'm too busy waiting to be rescued.jendakerrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10861218850900483151noreply@blogger.com